Budget Committee October 11, 2024   10/11/2024

At this time, I'll ask the clerk to call the roll so we can verify the presence of a quorum.

We have nine present.

Welcome.

So from here I'll hand it over to Director Hoppe to discuss the city's debt service.

Welcome Director Hoppe.

Generally speaking, I mentioned our debt is not excessive.

I did put a note in here that... Director Hoppe, if you can just make sure that the speaker can... your mic can catch what you're saying.

Sure colleagues.

I'll first recognize councilmember Wonsley.

I

I get it for a time, but I at least wanted to know what NDB stood for in the first one in the capital infrastructure column.

It's the net debt bonds.

Never mind.

This one here?

Yeah.

NDB refers to net debt bonds basically the title is a little misleading but it's been around historically and we've continued with that but it's the revenue source is strictly property taxes

What would be the consequence?

Usually people are asking us to do that when interest rates are high.

And I see Council President Payne.

Obviously I think our bond rating is maybe the answer to that question but I'm just curious you know if you have any kind of thoughts on when we ought to be considering more risk what you know what are the conditions in which we would want to increase our debt capacity.

I think there's just some economic principles and public policy that kind of help you answer your question.

Thank you.

Welcome.

I stand for questions.

And welcome if you'll begin by introducing yourself.

I am available for any questions and thank you for your time.

Welcome, Director.

Hi.

If you'll also begin by introducing yourself.

Thank you for

you know the MPD 07 or I did see you had a line item for security improvements if either of those capital plans addressed some of the items highlighted in the audit of our evidence warehouse for MPD I know that has your team coordinated at all with MPD on the evidence warehouse?

Hopefully that answered your question.

And I was curious if there had been any thought on the Southside Safety Center, the new third precinct as possibly being a facility that could be used for those purposes.

So it's not off the table, but I do have to say we need to go through the process of the design.

And I just raised that because I could see there being some synergies with what we're trying to accomplish there and through those synergies perhaps some cost savings.

Next I'll recognize council member Wonsley.

I know you mentioned the court settlement facility assessment that were mandated to carry out, but that seems quite different than what is being asked in the Safe and Thriving Communities reporting plan.

I hope that that addressed your question.

I think what I heard originally is or what I'm hearing now is there hasn't been the analysis because our conversation that we're having today was around me being interested in following the CLIC's recommendation to do a study to do that exact analysis that does not seem to be done and it's not the same as the court settlement facility assessment which is what I've been told so far that assessment has been done but what I'm hearing is slightly different today around that

And so that is correct.

Thank you for that clarification because originally I was told to not bring forward that recommendation because of the assessment, the facility assessment mandated by the court.

Thank you

Next I will recognize Vice Chair Koski.

Right.

and in this case the cases that you brought forward they all fall under the Office of Public Safety and so we would look to get the vision and the direction from Commissioner Barnett.

How significant are the cost differences between those or does what I see here sort of in between what this could look like?

And so from that data we would be able to make some recommendations.

It says that this is a renova- is the dollar amounts here just for the renovation versus I'm understanding that we potentially could add a second location so that would be an additional cost on top of that?

Okay, that's really helpful.

Another question, and this might just be, or I know that this is me not following the budget process through 3000 Minnehaha, so I notice that's not on here at all, so is my understanding that all of that funding is complete then for 2024 and there is no additional funding or budget for 2025 or 2026, 27, or any ask?

Still to be determined.

I mean we see the data and we understand what that will help to improve their health and wellness and faster response but I'd like to see what that does here for Minneapolis so appreciate seeing that in there.

So that's what we have still left to get through and then I'll also note I'm going to turn the chair over to Vice Chair Koski and I'll recognize Council Member Palmisano

Do we always put them both in and see which way we might want to handle those requests?

I would actually like to partner with Allen because it is very much an integrated process and we identify our needs and then work with the budget office.

So I should stop there and see if we go a little deeper, a little slightly different direction to answer the question.

I'm good.

I'll hold them for another time.

Okay, Council Member Vita.

We are still working through finalizing the program

So those specific items are still being worked through the Office of Public Safety and again that would be Amanda Harrington could speak very explicitly about the details of each of those items.

Thank you.

Is that related to the RFP that was named that we should be anticipating that's going to come that was mentioned in our briefings?

And so that is what it is in reference to.

Thank you.

All right, and last we have Councilmember Chavez.

You said, and I don't know if I got the full answer from the question that Councilmember Wonsley asked, but so there's program dollars in the current mayor's proposed budget proposal for 3000 Minute Haha.

3000 Minnehaha is not part of our capital presentation today.

But it's not part of your proposals, it's somewhere else in the budget.

We have dollars accessible that enable us to do pre-design work.

And then, I was trying to look to see if there was anything in the budget to address the barbed wire on 3000 Minahaha in this presentation, but that's probably a different department as well.

Perfect, thank you.

So Clerk, is that correct?

That is correct.

Alright, welcome.

Thank you for your time.

We have Konta Maravita in queue.

Of course.

Welcome.

And Madam Chair, that concludes my presentation and I'm happy to stand for questions.

and just wanted to note that our next presentation is on October 15th at 10 a.m. it will be the Minneapolis Public Housing Authority and with that we've concluded all business to become to come before the committee this morning without objection we will now adjourn thank you

and the City Council.